I spoke with Pelicans color analyst Antonio Daniels about his
assessment of the team and that national media disrespect toward
New Orleans.
Etan Thomas: First, how great is it to see the
Pelicans prove a lot of people wrong who didn't even give them a
chance?
Antonio Daniels: "Oh, man. Well, for me, it's
not even about it being great, proving people wrong. The great part
is what I've seen this team accomplish. People are going to doubt
no matter what. I don't care who you are, or what you've ever done,
how good you are. People are always going to doubt. But you can't
allow people's doubts to actually affect the way that you think
about yourself. I have said this about this team from Day 1, and I
actually have it bookmarked in my Twitter feed; Nov. 5, I said at
this time, 'This team gets healthy, they're a playoff team. If they
get healthy, they're a playoff team.' And I remember I was doing
the pregame show and David Wesley, who's a good friend of mine,
turned and faced my way and was almost like to say, 'Whatever.' You
know what I mean?
Etan: Right.
Daniels: "Here's the thing, Etan. When you're
talking about success in this league, it's not going to [happen] if
you don't have a culture of overachievement. It doesn't happen. You
have to have guys that overachieve, guys that are outplaying the
expectation. You can go all the way back to the Golden State
Warriors. What they did with Steph Curry and Draymond Green and
Klay Thompson and those guys. They all overachieved. Did you think
when Steph Curry and Klay Thompson were coming out that they would
be the best shooting backcourt in history? Or when Draymond Green
was coming out, at this point in his career, he would be a
Hall-of-Famer? No. But they created a culture of
overachievement.
"What you have here in New Orleans is, a lot was going on early
on in the season, new pieces trying to fit in along with head coach
Willie Green. And that's a lot to take on early; 1-12, 3-16 is what
this team started. And now, at that time, the talk was, 'Let's
tank. There's no Zion.' Fans all said they should just tank the
season. Even when you acquired CJ McCollum. I remember Stephen A.
Smith saying, 'Oh, I don't know what they're doing. Why would CJ
McCollum want to go there? New Orlenas ain't going anywhere
anyway.'
"The disrespect from the national media is, I think, what guys
really pay attention to. And I think they do somewhat use that as
motivation. But to be a part of this journey, Etan, from Day 1 of
training camp, to Zion being hurt [and] not being available
throughout the course of this team's season, being without your
best player and seeing what this team has been able to accomplish,
climbing out of that 3-16 start, it's been special."
Etan: Talk about the addition you mentioned of
CJ McCollum and how much that has helped the entire team.
Daniels: "I'll say this first: What people
forget about in that addition is that Larry Nance was in that
[trade] as well, and people aren't talking about that. People are
talking about CJ, and CJ's been fantastic. But I'll tell you what,
I don't think that the Pelicans are at this point without Larry
Nance Jr. He was the difference in the Play-In game against the
Clippers because what he offers you is versatility at the 5 spot
that you didn't have prior to him. Versatility and experience. When
teams go small, like you see a lot of the NBA doing now, and
they're basically playing five forwards like the Toronto Raptors,
it’s problematic for opposing teams. You need a big that is
experienced, knowledged, but understands strengths and weaknesses
[and] also has the skill set to compete. Larry Nance Jr was great.
And people don't talk about him enough."
Etan: Great point.
Daniels: "But to get to CJ — CJ's playing the
best basketball of his career. And from his words, he's a servant
leader. And I love it because he's not very vocal, but he leads by
example. He came in and he said, 'You know what, man? I want
Brandon Ingram to be the best version of himself' on Day 1. Because
if B.I.'s the best version of himself, that will allow me (meaning
CJ McCollum) to be the best version of myself. And I remember
asking CJ, when I sat down and I interviewed him, talking about,
'How do you develop chemistry between you and B.I.?' And he said,
'You know what? I'll do the same thing with him that me and Dame
[Lillard] did. We sat down and we watched films together. I want to
know where he wants to ball. I want him to be vocal with me. I want
to know where his hotspot is, what plays he likes, when he needs me
to back down and allow him to be the best version of himself.' The
communication between those two from Day 1 was at an all-time
level.
"But, Etan, what really helped this team was the All-Star break.
Because if you look at what this team has done post-All-Star break,
that was the chemistry between CJ and B.I. really starting to take
off. We opened up in Phoenix. First game at the All-Star break, we
opened up in Phoenix. And they talked at length about the dinner
that they had in Phoenix the night before, where they just got an
opportunity to connect to one another and to communicate with one
another. This team has been rolling ever since when those two are
on the floor together with a healthy starting five."
Etan: I want you to talk a little bit about
Coach Willie Green. I actually posted and tweeted the clip of
him motivating the guys. It made
me feel like I want to go out there and lace them back up and get
ready to go play. Talk about how great he has been for this
team.
Daniels: "Listen, Etan, I can't put it into
words the respect that I have for Willie Green from Day 1. You know
it's funny. Because when you're losing, people don't want to hear
about it. People don't want to hear about the positives when you're
losing. They only want to hear about the positives when you start
playing well. And when this team was 1-12, and then, when they were
3-16... I'll tell you, Etan, we've both played on bad teams; you
know what a shootaround is like walking into the gym when you're
3-16. This was not it. I have never seen more spirited shootarounds
from, at the time, what seemed to be a bad basketball team. And
that started with Willie Green. He never blinked. He never allowed
this team to lose confidence. His faith in this team never wavered,
and he stands on his faith as a whole.
"I'll give you a quick example. You know how many coaches have
the open-door policy where you can come in and talk? I meet with
Willie Green from time-to-time. We'll go into his office. We'll
talk or sit or chat or go out to dinner. Etan, our meetings ended
with prayer. How many coaches have you ever gone in to meet with
and talk about the team or whatever it may be and, when it's all
said and done, you guys are at his desk praying together? That
speaks to the man that Willie Green is. He is one of those guys
that is so inspiring because he makes you want to be a better
version of yourself. I don't hoop no more, Etan. If that's how he
makes me feel, I can imagine how he makes players feel. When you
have guys like Jose Alvarado and Trey Murphy and Herb Jones, Jaxson
Hayes — all these guys, when their number was called, they were
ready to go. Because when they weren't playing, Willie Green was
still speaking grace, life and confidence into them. And I had an
opportunity to see it up close and personal. I am at every
practice, at every shootaround. I've traveled with the team. I eat
with the team. To see his communication with them, his ability to
relate to them [is incredible].
"And I'm a proud believer, Etan, that the best coaches in this
league are role players. You know why? Because they can relate to
everybody from 1-to-15. If you're a star player, you can't relate
to the guy who hasn't played in six games or the guy who's major
inconsistent. Willie Green has started in this league, he's been a
sixth man, he's been in situations where his minutes weren't
guaranteed and he's also been in a situation where he hadn't played
at all. Tell me who on that bench he cannot relate to! And there's
nothing more important in today's NBA than a coach's ability to
relate to his players. I don't care about your defensive schemes, I
don't care about your X's and O's. If the players feel like you
can't relate to them, they will not play as hard for you. But the
moment that they feel like you care about them as men, as fathers,
as husbands — they will run through a wall for you. And I'm telling
you, Willie Green has that locker room so engaged, because of the
way that he handles himself throughout adversity."
Etan: Wow. That's great to hear, and I thought
that about him already, just from knowing who he is. But it's great
to hear you say that. Let me ask you one more thing. I know you
don't worry about the haters and the noise and social media, all
that stuff, but they keep bringing up the fact that because Devin
Booker isn't there, that's the reason why the Pelicans are in this
series. I was like, 'Well, wait a minute. Y'all forget that Zion
isn't there either?' I'm like, y'all forgot about that part.
Daniels: "Here's the thing. Has there ever been
an NBA champion where there's not a 'What if?' attached to it?
Let's just go back to a year ago. Remember when Trae Young got hurt
against Milwaukee? Remember when Kyrie Irving got hurt against
Milwaukee? Remember James Harden had to come back as a shadow of
himself with half of a hamstring versus Milwaukee? Remember a
couple years back when Kevin Durant and Klay Thompson got hurt, and
then Toronto won the championship? Look, ain't nobody tripping on
that. This is the league full of injuries. You get certain things
that are out of your control. So If people say, 'Oh man, the only
reason that the Pelicans won is because (fill in the blank), well,
okay.' But you are not going to find an NBA champion, a NFL
champion where breaks don’t go somebody's way.
"But I'll tell you this, there are two teams in the NBA who have
yet to play with their best player. I'm talking about not even one
practice. Not even one practice this year with their best player.
It's the L.A. Clippers and the New Orleans Pelicans. Kawhi
[Leonard] literally practiced one time. But let me tell you the
difference. The difference is, Kawhi Leonard has practiced with
Tyronn Lue before. He's practiced with him before, last year. Zion
does not have one practice with Coach Willie Green. Not
one. The last that Zion has been on the floor is when he was
averaging 26 points per game and shooting 61% from the field under
Coach Stan Van Gundy.
"So people can sit here and say, 'Oh, well, the only reason is,
because...' So what? So what? Your job is to go out and your job is
to play. Plain and simple. Look at the playoffs now. Khris
Middleton is sidelined. Luka [Doncic] was sidelined. Kyle Lowry is
sidelined. You get guys that are injured all the time. What are the
Pelicans supposed to say? 'Ah, you know what man? Devin Booker's
not there. Let's wait. Let's wait until they have help and then
come back to finish this series.' No. Your job is to take advantage
of the situation that's given."
Etan: That’s absolutely correct.
Daniels: "And I'll tell you this, Etan, it goes
along with the national narrative of the lack of respect that's
given to the Pelicans. It goes right along with it. It doesn't
matter. You know this better than anybody. It doesn't matter what
people think about you. 'You ain't never believed in me as long as
I believe in myself.' And this is a team, right now, that believes
in themselves."
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